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Zar Dim
Minmatar
Anus Horriblis
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Posted - 2006.10.24 18:14:00 -
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 Originally by: Zixxa
Javelin dps now is below CRUISE DPS. For what hell shoudl I use torps? And care about fitting?
Rage fit is usable only with zillion painters + few webbers + covert + . How many time you have zillion painters?
QFT
Javelins needed nerf, but that goes overboard tbh. We got now complete reverse, previously there was no need to use Fury cruises, now Javelins are worthless. Please strike a balance.
On another subject cruises Fury, 10 secs flight time, max speed 1750, and damage only 15% more then generic cruises is this a joke or what?
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Zar Dim
Minmatar
Anus Horriblis
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Posted - 2006.10.24 18:18:00 -
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Originally by: Tassi
Rage got a boost? what??
Where??? As useless as ever.
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Zar Dim
Minmatar
Anus Horriblis
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Posted - 2006.10.24 18:31:00 -
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Edited by: Zar Dim on 24/10/2006 18:32:58
Originally by: Butter Dog
An MWD will give the average BS a sig radius of 2200. So won't they just hit for full damage?
 100 explosion velocity! Now calculate for how much damage it will hit?
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Zar Dim
Minmatar
Anus Horriblis
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Posted - 2006.10.24 19:26:00 -
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Originally by: Robet Katrix
no. if it's speed exceeds 100km the torps do substanially less dmg. meaning you need a web on it as well
Yeah, now to the easy part, how to web someone in the raven. When this someone wants to keep a distance.
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Zar Dim
Minmatar
Anus Horriblis
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Posted - 2006.10.25 05:57:00 -
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Edited by: Zar Dim on 25/10/2006 06:03:15
Edited by: Zar Dim on 25/10/2006 06:00:14
Originally by: Yamaeda
Rage vs BS (stationary):
Before 675*400/1000 = 270
Now 540*400/600 = 360
buff vs bs = +33% (!)
How's that "as useless as ever" and not a great buff?
For starters try to get a grip of the issue first then respond.
Ok, you pointed to me then now rages do 33% more damage to stationary targets! Well that's nice to know, but usually ships are moving when they try to hurt you. And for BS this mean speed around 150 m/s. Let's do some math:
Rage Torp Damage: 540*400/600*100/150 = 240
T1 Torp Damage: 450*400/400*min[1,250/150] = 450
So T1 do almost twise(!) damage compared to rages. Now tell me genious will I EVER use rages?
They still will shut down cap regen when i fit them. And will do less damage then T1, nice isn't it.
Previously they at least do some damage to capital ships, but now they suck in this department too.
Sometimes it's better to chew then to speak
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Zar Dim
Minmatar
Anus Horriblis
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Posted - 2006.10.25 10:54:00 -
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Please stay on topic, that's about javelins.
They are nerfed to such extent that right now there is absolutly no incenitive to use T2 Torps, and hence launchers. With upcoming rigs, it's much easier to fit 15% damage bonus rig on cruises and don't use Torps at all.
On the PVP you have to use T1 torps but once again given fix to fury cruises (now they are at least useful), it looks like fury cruises will have higher dps then torps (taking rigs in to the picture)
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